{"id":4272,"date":"2015-01-31T12:00:34","date_gmt":"2015-01-31T19:00:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/?p=4272"},"modified":"2015-02-16T15:46:05","modified_gmt":"2015-02-16T22:46:05","slug":"guying-system","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/equipment\/guying-system\/","title":{"rendered":"SOTA Antenna Pole Tips"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Antenna Pole Tips by KX0R<\/p>\n<p>For activating summits without trees, we usually need to bring a support for an HF antenna. The most common tool is a collapsible fiberglass pole. There are many types of poles available, and they have their pros and cons.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4275\" style=\"width: 1010px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8818-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4275\" class=\"wp-image-4275 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8818-2.jpg\" alt=\"Black Widow Pole Guyed on Hallett Peak\" width=\"1000\" height=\"750\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8818-2.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8818-2-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8818-2-250x187.jpg 250w, https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8818-2-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4275\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Black Widow Pole Guyed on Hallett Peak<\/p><\/div>\n<p>1) Tall, strong poles are available, but they are heavy and impractical in high winds<\/p>\n<p>2) Inexpensive large fishing poles and banner poles are practical, but they are long when collapsed and may be awkward to carry in difficult terrain<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4608\" style=\"width: 1010px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/James-and-KX0R.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4608\" class=\"wp-image-4608 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/James-and-KX0R.jpg\" alt=\"KX0R Hiking up James Peak\" width=\"1000\" height=\"809\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/James-and-KX0R.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/James-and-KX0R-300x243.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/James-and-KX0R-250x202.jpg 250w, https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/James-and-KX0R-371x300.jpg 371w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4608\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">KX0R Hiking up James Peak<\/p><\/div>\n<p>3) Carbon-fiber (graphite) poles are shorter when collapsed and easy to carry in rough country; but they are expensive and easily damaged, and they work best with very thin wire<\/p>\n<p>There are many ways to support an antenna pole. The tips here will work on most high summits.<\/p>\n<p>My simple guying &#8220;system&#8221; started when I did summits like Green Mountain south of<br \/>\nGolden, and various high alpine peaks, where there may not be big rocks to lean a pole\u00a0against. Small ropes don\u2019t hold the slick pole well, unless they&#8217;re at a<br \/>\nright angle to the pole&#8230;which is not always possible.<\/p>\n<p>A tight rubber band or two are put on below the first or second pole joint, so that the lines can\u00a0hold the pole, even when they come down at an acute angle to the pole.<br \/>\nEach time I try this set-up I learn a little more.<\/p>\n\n\t\t<style type=\"text\/css\">\n\t\t\t#gallery-1 {\n\t\t\t\tmargin: auto;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t#gallery-1 .gallery-item {\n\t\t\t\tfloat: left;\n\t\t\t\tmargin-top: 10px;\n\t\t\t\ttext-align: center;\n\t\t\t\twidth: 100%;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t#gallery-1 img {\n\t\t\t\tborder: 2px solid #cfcfcf;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t#gallery-1 .gallery-caption {\n\t\t\t\tmargin-left: 0;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t\/* see gallery_shortcode() in wp-includes\/media.php *\/\n\t\t<\/style>\n\t\t<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-4272 gallery-columns-1 gallery-size-full'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8830-2.jpg'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"750\" src=\"https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8830-2.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-4276\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8830-2.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8830-2-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8830-2-250x187.jpg 250w, https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8830-2-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-4276'>\n\t\t\t\tCloseup &#8211; 1\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8831-2.jpg'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"858\" height=\"1000\" src=\"https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8831-2.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-4277\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8831-2.jpg 858w, https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8831-2-257x300.jpg 257w, https:\/\/www.schnizer.com\/SOTAblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/IMG_8831-2-250x291.jpg 250w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 858px) 100vw, 858px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-4277'>\n\t\t\t\tCloseup &#8211; 2\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p>It is essential that the bottom of the pole be in a hole, or surrounded by<br \/>\nrocks, so that it cannot flip up when the pole is under stress from wind and<br \/>\nthe wire. The wire at the top tries to pull the bottom of the pole up. The<br \/>\ntwo guy lines are the fulcrum of a lever &#8211; the top of the pole tries to<br \/>\npivot around the attachment point and flip up at the bottom, if the tension on the top<br \/>\nof the pole is high.<\/p>\n<p>Make sure the bottom of the pole is sufficiently secure. It must be in a depression, or confined by rocks. The tension on the pole must not be excessive.<\/p>\n<p>The beautiful part is that when the pole is up, it can be taken down in<br \/>\nseconds just by lifting it a couple of inches, so the bottom comes up,<br \/>\nrotating the entire pole around the fixed point where the two guy ropes are<br \/>\ntied, and then laying it on the ground. The top lies in the direction of<br \/>\nthe far end of the wire.<\/p>\n<p>Now here&#8217;s the real secret: If the pole can be taken down in seconds, it<br \/>\ncan be raised in seconds just the same way. \u00a0Here&#8217;s how to set it up:<\/p>\n<p>1) The guy ropes are located first. A good spot for the bottom of the pole<br \/>\nis chosen, and rocks for tying the guy ropes are selected.<\/p>\n<p>2) The collapsed pole is placed sideways, the rubber bands are put on below the first or second joint, and the two guy\u00a0lines are tied on. \u00a0The attachment point for the lines is located above the spot where the pole bottom will be.<\/p>\n<p>3) The lines are pre-adjusted so they will be tight at the right spot<br \/>\nhorizontally when the pole is raised; it is\u00a0possible to get them almost right.<\/p>\n<p>4) The pole is extended horizontally. The antenna wire is attached to the tip of the pole.\u00a0It helps if the top of the pole points away from the guy lines &#8211; so the wire<br \/>\nlies on the ground, below where it will eventually fly.<\/p>\n<p>5) If the antenna wire has a loop tied at the apex point, there&#8217;s no<br \/>\nfooling with the length.<\/p>\n<p>6) If the wire is going to slide freely through the top of the pole, the<br \/>\nbottom if the wire (the feedpoint) needs to be tied to something so it<br \/>\ndoesn\u2019t fly up into the air when the pole is raised. If the wire is fixed<br \/>\nto the top of the pole, which I usually do, it can be tied off later.<\/p>\n<p>7) The pole is raised, and the bottom is fixed in place so it won&#8217;t move<br \/>\naround or flip out.<\/p>\n<p>8) While holding the pole up, I grab the far end of the wire, put some<br \/>\ntension on the pole &#8211; it curves &#8211; and let go of it while I walk away,<br \/>\nkeeping it curving under tension from the wire.<\/p>\n<p>9) I walk to the end of the wire, which has about 50 feet of small line<br \/>\nattached, and continue out until I come to something to<br \/>\ntie to. Once the line is tied off, the system is usually stable.<\/p>\n<p>10) Minor changes are made with the pole up. The guys can be adjusted,<br \/>\nthe bottom of the pole can be shifted, or the direction of the wire can be adjusted somewhat.<\/p>\n<p>11) Just by lifting the base of the pole, the pole can be tipped over toward the far end of the wire, with the guys acting as a fulcrum, and the wire will drop. \u00a0A link in the wire can be connected or opened, and then the system can be raised back to normal height in seconds.<\/p>\n<p>12) My 33 foot wire is really easy to get up, since about half of it is<br \/>\nvertical. There&#8217;s not much wire and line lying around to get caught in the<br \/>\nrocks. It&#8217;s fast and easy.<\/p>\n<p>13) A 67 foot wire with the long dacron line is more tricky &#8211; it gets caught<br \/>\non rocks, trees, or bushes, so stringing it out can take a few tries,<br \/>\nand it covers much more space on the mountain. The higher the far end the<br \/>\nbetter &#8211; often I use standing trees, dead tree trunks as poles, or large rocks to raise the far end. I have used a 6-foot fishing pole for a far-end support. I have run the wire up at a high angle with good results, or down the\u00a0slope with OK results. Small wire is preferred, because it flies higher\u00a0without bending the pole too much.<\/p>\n<p>14) I use small spools for the wire. \u00a0A variety of options are available.<\/p>\n<p>15) Twisted wire can be prevented by winding the wire onto the spool in an alternating manner &#8211; 10 turns one way, 10 turns the other way, etc. Wire must not be unspoiled off the\u00a0end of the spool, unless it was originally wound onto the spool in the\u00a0reverse manner. \u00a0Twisted wire causes kinks, and kinks are not acceptable.<\/p>\n<p>16) Sometimes an antenna pole can be just wedged in the rocks, but a gust of wind<br \/>\ncan take it down. \u00a0A guyed system is more robust.<\/p>\n<p>17) On summits with trees, I usually tie the pole to a limb. A tree several feet high is often enough to support the system. \u00a0If the base of the pole is secured by a rock or a branch, just one quick tie about 4 feet up will hold it. \u00a0Otherwise use two well-spaced ties to the tree. If winds are strong, guys may be needed even with a tree or rock support.<\/p>\n<p>73<\/p>\n<p>KX0R<\/p>\n<HR>\n<p style=\"font-size:10px\">\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/d\/dd\/Achtung.svg\/877px-Achtung.svg.png\" alt=\"ATTENTION\" style=\"float:left\" height=\"41\" width=\"41\"> \n\n!! WARNING !! There are <b>old<\/b> mountaineers, and \n<b>bold<\/b> mountaineers... there are no old-bold mountaineers. \nHiking and mountain climbing are potentially hazardous activities particularly in Colorado with its extreme elevations. I am not accepting responsibility for any death or injury resulting from activations based on my trip reports. Proper training, experience, and personal capability assessment is required - enjoy!\n<\/p>\n\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Antenna Pole Tips by KX0R For activating summits without trees, we usually need to bring a support for an HF antenna. The most common tool is a collapsible fiberglass pole. 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